posted 09-23-2001 12:01 PM            

A confidant man is a man who will suck seed; a confident man will instill his confidence upon others. And men and women alike will be in awe at his presence� he demands attention, and to those who insult him he will pay no mind, as they have already wasted enough of his time.

Confidence is needed in many situations, but is channeled, always, through yourself, your words, your actions, your everything.

The basis of all confidence is confidence in yourself. To gain such confidence, a man must look deep in himself, and grow as a person, and realize his place in the world. Here are ways to gain self-confidence:

-Lift weights � By improving the body the mind will improve too. When you have the muscles, show them off, wear tight shirts, and hell, go shirtless.

-The full body flex � Stand up straight, and flex every muscle in the mirror and say, �I am a Don Juan, and I as I am constantly improving, they are constantly staying the same. While I lift weights, they lift cheeseburgers to there triple chins. While I work on my approach, theirs is becoming more and more out-of-date. When I am out on a hot date, they are wishing they were me.�

-Find their wrongs � Sit down and think of people in an important position. Find one thing with those that come to mind as famous, or powerful. Ex. President Bush � The president of the United states, and he can�t even write his own speeches� things like that that takes others off there pedestals, and by doing so, lifts you onto your own.

That base branches off into many areas, the first being having confidence dealing with other men, by having confidence in yourself, you should let others no that you are no doormat, you are a Don Juan. The following is a list of the types of people (males) in this category:

-Your friends � While you are with your friends don�t be the monkey of the group, getting them things from the other room, always paying for the rounds (*note sometimes this is just polite if there hands are full, or if you are a doctor and they are a janitor, it is just an act of charity to help them out.). To gain confidence with them give ideas when you are trying to figure out what to do, if you don�t want to do anything don�t do it, cheat on poker night (bluff a few, see if you get away with it), and as always stand up for yourself if they start using you as a punching bag (not only physically, but any kind of verbal abuse too).

-Meeting new people (male) � When you meet someone new, smile, introduce yourself(with your full name, and your title), and give a hard, firm, handshake. If they don�t reciprocate they aren�t worth your time, but if you have to put up with them, stay calm and collected, but let them know your displeasure.

-Ass holes � Along your way in life there will be many asses, but it is how we deal with them that shapes our lives, and us as people. When dealing with an aggressor, or maybe some one who is jealous of you and is being rude, never lose your cool, because you are a Don Juan, and the likes of a foolish man who doesn�t realize all he is doing is wasting your time will not phase you in the leased.

The second branch is while dealing with your �superiors.� This group is having confidence while dealing with those who are higher ranking (male or female) than you:

-Male � Look at your male superiors, find something wrong with them, and let them know you have found a fault in them, it will cut them down to size and if they are good people, they now can be made into actual friends, and will be less likely to see you as an �inferior.�

-Female � A female �superior� must also be taken off her pedestal, but this must be don more subtly. When she tries to demand your attention, don�t give I to her right away (even if she is your boss, she can�t fire you for that.). And when she is about your height (or smaller, depending on how far off her pedestal she fell.) she can be made a friend, a one night stand (not advised if she is your boss.), or you may become involved.

And now, with no further adue, the branch you all have been waiting for� women. Some might be mistaken and say this is the �best� branch to be �fluent� in, but a chain is only as strong as its weakest link. This branch will classify women into groups that should be dealt with accordingly� and, with no further adieu:

-Women we are not interested in � These women are women we may become friends with, and meet other women through them, and they may spread out good (hopefully) reputation. They are the easiest to have confidence with, as we are under no pressure while talking/interacting with them. But remember you should always be confident and sure of yourself around them, as they have friends or (if they are still maturing) may become attractive to you later in life.

-Women we are interested in � These women, maybe 6-7-8�s are not uncommon, but still make us a tad bit nervous. They may live next door, or be in our math class, or work in the cubical down the hall. We talk and flirt with them, because maybe they are really interesting, or whatever, and we possibly may have a long-term relationship with them, or even spend the rest of our lives with that one special woman. To have confidence with these women we must look in ourselves, and see that we are Don Juan�s and we deserve better than her, and she privileged to have a chance with us. These women can be found in malls, at restaurants, everywhere, and experience, experience is the best teacher.

-Goddesses � These women are an astonishing 9-9.9 (there is no such thing as a perfect woman). When we see them our knees give out, our stomachs turn over, we sweat like were standing next to the sun. There are many things we, as Don Juan�s need to realize about these women and the feelings they give us:
- There is always a woman more beautiful, smarter, funnier, and younger than this one
- That feeling of nervousness isn�t a bad thing; something horrible that �real� Don Juan�s don�t feel. That feeling should be embraced; because it means that this woman we are about to talk to/are talking to is truly a goddess, a woman above the average woman. So don�t beat that feeling into submission, simply be happy you have found a woman suitable for you, a Don Juan.
- They have many suitors, and for now, until we leave our all-but lasting impression, we are just another �Billy-Bob.�
- Unlike the average woman, these women need to be impressed, not interrogated (with open-ended questions.)
- We need to stand out, as your name isn�t Billy-Bob, and you, unlike Billy-Bob, actually deserve this woman

In the end, we, the Don Juan�s, will succeed, and we will be the envy of man, and the desire of every woman.

Master Don Juan,
Anthony (Lorenzo)
AOL: EnzoOOI

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"The only thing certian in life, is that it will end in death" -Some Old Movie
"The only true knoledge, is knowing that you know nothing" -Socretes
"If ya' can't beat 'em, there not tied down hard enough!" -me and my friend, (all in fun)
"Guilt, my friend, is like a bag of fvcking bricks... all you have to do, is set 'em down" -Satan(played by Al Pachino in The Devil's Advocate)

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posted 09-23-2001 12:40 PM            

HELL NO i say we need to nock them off their pedestal cause we are not lucky to fuk them THEY are the ones who should be thankful to be fuked by us the DJs cause great MEN like US are hard to find and they SHOULD impress us.

I RATHER GET KICKED IN THE NUTS THAN IMPRESS SOME 9.99 WHO THINKS SHE IS A GODESS. NEG HITS my friend is the key to this girls.

posted 09-23-2001 03:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Lorenzo:
-[b]Goddesses � These women are an astonishing 9-9.9 (there is no such thing as a perfect woman).

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WHEW! I was starting to think I was alone in thinking that way. Oh, either way, I still get a chuckle out of our average newbies that come on board saying, "WOW!!! I found this perfect 10...blah, blah, blah"...then the inevitable letdown.

I don't think I even rate women above a 9, for that matter. Not that I am perfect, but I find most goddess-like women are mental cases, and the homely-looking ones have the straight heads on their shoulders.

posted 09-23-2001 03:39 PM            

I'm going to move this to the main discussion form because it is soo good. That way, everyone will have a chance to see it.

posted 09-23-2001 06:58 PM            

people nit-pickig Lorenzo's post, I think it's great. Also he just said impress the 9.9999s he din't say kiss their ass. I think neg hits and sarcasm and ball-busting is a great way to impress them myself.

NBT... Yes, I have said before that we ought to be confident in who we are and not in who we are trying to become. but I have news for you pal, all the confidence in the world isn't going to get oyu laid, a good job, or anything else positie if you live on the street and eat out of garbage cans.

posted 09-23-2001 09:53 PM            

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They have many suitors, and for now, until we leave our all-but lasting impression, we are just another �Billy-Bob.�

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Actually, a lot of the hot ones are so intimidating to most guys that they DON'T have very many suiters. A 7 will get more dates than a 10.

posted 09-23-2001 11:24 PM            

i really like this post though I think @ least ONE PERSON overintellectualized this to the point of unintelligibility.

Beneath that muddle, I believe there was an overly elaborate thought but my opinion is that Lorenzo's post is PRACTICAL, USEFUL, UNDERSTANDABLE.

Also, Lorenzo's post is based on a lot of brick and mortar work of self-improvement instead of a lot bullsh*t abstract smoke rings.

Thanks for posting this, pal. Giving us data in short, sweet manner lets us embed it in our conscious with the force of a military drill.

When we work this into our minds, we will improve.

MOre power to ye!!!!

posted 09-24-2001 01:19 PM            

Casual sex comes with only casual relationships and casual people. Those are the type of people and relationships that hurt your confidence the most, because you will always wonder "WHY it ended!" If you focus on something serious, you will find yourself thinking to yourself, "Since I want to get into something serious, it better be good!" You will notice that YOU are the one who starts to get picky, not just the woman you go out with.

Moreover, when you do that, your respect for yourself will be higher, and your self esteem elevates. In fact, when you start to work out and do whatever positive activity you want, you will see that these activities did not change much of your attitude towards who you will go out with, but rather than feeling good about yourself to have some good habits in your life.

posted 09-24-2001 04:48 PM            

Keep it up the great work!

Legend

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"We are coming after you. God may have mercy on you, but we won't," declared Sen. John McCain, R-Arizona.

"I have always believed that when a man gets it into his head to do something, and when he exclusively occupies himself in that design, he must succeed, whatever the difficulties. That man will become Grand Vizier or Pope"..... Casanova

posted 09-24-2001 04:59 PM            

you sound to me like a guy who tries to hide his ignorance behind a facde of pseudo-intellectual posturing, circular arguments, and insubstatial ideas.

In other words, you are full of ****. I'm not fooled by it, and I doubt anyoe else here is stupid enough to be impressed by your pathetic, pretentious rambling.

I'm callin you out. Prove me worng by telling us all, in SIMPLE terms, how it is that YOU suck seed with women and how easy it is for you.

No you'd rather talk about how 'sex isn't what we really need. we need some indefineable, lofty, platonic union that will ultimatley express itself in the purest and most uplifting sexual experience.' not your words, but hell, it sounds like some bull**** you would say.

Sex IS the endgame here pal. the reason we are here is to get better at attracting women and making them our sexual conquests. Whether you plan to have a 'realationship' as a result of this, or just the fact that you balled some gorgeous girl that most other guys in the world wouldn't even dare to have a wet-dream about... its STILL the same.

you find girl, you get girl interested in and attracted to you, and then you use your endgame techniques to get girl into your preferred sexual relationship. If that's a one night stand or occasional booty call, fine. If that is an ongoing exclusive committed sexual arrangement great. it's still all about you getting sex. period.

posted 09-24-2001 06:56 PM            

- Unlike the average woman, these women need to be impressed, not interrogated (with open-ended questions.)

... by "impressed" i meant, simply, that we must be differen't, however you chose to do this is up to you:

-neg-hits
-a magic trick
-a joke
-or just a plain aura, dripping with confedence

I hope this clarifies things...

Master Don Juan,
Anthony (Lorenzo)
AOL: EnzoOOI

posted 09-24-2001 08:18 PM            

This page is in the "Don Juan Discussion Forum." I hope you can see the word "Discussion" and clearly understand it for the word that it really is. If you understand what it meant, you would not simply say, "Get on the page with the rest of us." As a matter of fact, getting on the page is not by just giving some blind and meaningless applause, but rather by getting into a meaningful discussion.

Lorenzo's article was good and educating. It had many good points. It is only appropriate to point out what I find to be true about it from what I do not as it suggests ways to improve one's social behaviour and self-confidence.

A rational person accepts such criticism and does not take it personally. A rational person looks at the compliments and evaluates their merits. You, on the other hand, chose to deviate from the issue at hand and tried to drag me into an adolescent hostility and childish confrontations that lead nowhere.

As this is going to be the last time I respond to your provocative replies, I will answer your immature post simply to clarify a few things that your hasty reading failed to see. After that, I will not respond to you again. As Lorenzo wrote in his post and as I agree with him, "-Ass holes � Along your way in life there will be many asses, but it is how we deal with them that shapes our lives, and us as people. When dealing with an aggressor, or maybe some one who is jealous of you and is being rude, never lose your cool, because you are a Don Juan, and the likes of a foolish man who doesn�t realize all he is doing is wasting your time will not phase you in the leased."

I did not advocate for platonic love nor did I exclude sex from a relationship. Having sex is a personal matter. Some people choose sex to be part of their relationship, and others don't. That was not what I said in my response nor was sex or "getting laid" the main topic of Lorenzo's main post. You missed his point and saw it from a very narrow-minded perspective as if it only pointed towards "getting laid".

Let me tell YOU something, "pal." His article was about confidence. Confidence is not confined to your being with a woman, but rather to your personality and how you feel towards yourself. That goes for everything: your confidence in yourself to be something, to do something, to be with somebody, or to be somebody. Anything you name it relates to confidence. Sex is just a portion of it.

"Getting laid" isn't the "endgame" for everybody here. Speak only for yourself. Sex is an important thing in one's life, but that's not why you should be with a woman for. If you look at women as subjects for your "sexual conquests," then you are a losing conquerer. Be with a woman as the human being she is. If you like her, end up having a sexual relationship, a committed relationship, or anything else, you have at least dealt with her as a human being.

If you respect yourself, people will see that in how you treat them and how you treat yourself. They will see THAT as a sign of confidence. People are attracted to others with confidence not to those with a self-illuding arrogance that gives only the shallow person the wrong perception that you are confident.

So long, BigBill.

posted 09-24-2001 08:46 PM            

Great post, I'm glad you clearified that point about impressing the 9-9.9s because that was the only point in your post I had a diagreement with.

Anyway, you are truely worthy of don status, believe me, those who are, are few and far between.

Good job man.

posted 09-24-2001 08:57 PM            

Anything But Tamed,
Thank you for your thoughts, and i will respect them as you make many great points. And it was ways I use (myself, and would recomend for others)to gain confedence and believe in myself more, though I failed to state the "true" nature of confedence thank you for bringing it to mine, and other Don Juan's, attension.

Centaurion,
Hey thanks alot man, that means alot to me, hell I am feeling more confident now than I have ever befor in my life... thanks. But if I were to be crowned anything, it would be Lorenzo Caeser.

ImprovingDonJuan,
I addressed your thoughts in a preveous reply.

Alfred,
Hey, I did too! Well we should compare thoughts some day.

BigBill,
Hey, thanks soo much for sticken up for me, and my opinions. And I agree wiht many of your thoughts on the topic as well... you were one of the few who noticed that i didn't say to kiss 9+'s ass, great interpritation.

ShiftKey,
Wow, I wana move to wear you live! The 9+'s around here get hit on the most but tend to be cold, or more comonly alpha-females, that, I believe is why they don't have many dates.

Ic,
Thanks man.

Don Phenom,
Thanks, it means alot to me.

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"The only thing certian in life, is that it will end in death" -Some Old Movie
"The only true knoledge, is knowing that you know nothing" -Socretes
"If ya' can't beat 'em, there not tied down hard enough!" -me and my friend, (all in fun)
"Guilt, my friend, is like a bag of fvcking bricks... all you have to do, is set 'em down" -Satan(played by Al Pachino in The Devil's Advocate)

[This message has been edited by Lorenzo (edited 09-24-2001).]

posted 09-25-2001 01:04 AM            

Brevity is the soul of wit.

posted 08-13-2002 06:59 AM            

Ok, maybe because I'm still young

But anyway, I think that if at a young age, and with an assertive girl, you go too far with moves, you end up getting a slap to the face (I got one for touching my gf's breasts while making out for the 10 millionth time - lucky we made up again). Dunno if its true for anyone (and its certainly NOT true if shes a slut/gangster hardcore), but with the kind of girls I've gone for, its often true.

posted 08-15-2002 02:19 PM            

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Originally posted by improvingdonjuan:
i agree to almost all but not the part that we need to impress the 9.99

[b] HELL NO i say we need to nock them off their pedestal cause we are not lucky to fuk them THEY are the ones who should be thankful to be fuked by us the DJs cause great MEN like US are hard to find and they SHOULD impress us.

I RATHER GET KICKED IN THE NUTS THAN IMPRESS SOME 9.99 WHO THINKS SHE IS A GODESS. NEG HITS my friend is the key to this girls.

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Damn right!

I don't care if this chick is a 9.99, I'm a 10.00 along with everybody else here, so this chick should thank her lucky stars that I'm even giving her the time of day.