posted 04-02-2002 12:04 PM            

There has been, and will continue to be, great interest in neg-hits. A successful DJ will always be cognizant of the fact that neg-hits are in integral part of his repertoire.
Why is this? Because neg-hits work, and they work wonderfully well when used correctly. Used incorrectly, the women will hate you.

�What exactly is a neg-hit� you ask? Neg-hit is short for negative hit. Many DJs have given great examples of neg-hits, but I shall give you an actual definition. Neg-hit: A remark, sometimes humorous, used to point out a woman�s flaws. That, in essence, is a neg-hit. Before we begin our in-depth study of neg-hits, let�s learn what a neg-hit IS NOT.

A neg-hit is NOT an insult. �You are a b*tch� is merely an insult, not a neg-hit (actually, it can be successfully used as a neg-hit, but not by someone that has to read posts about how to neg-hit. )

A neg-hit is NOT meant to be cruel. �You are too fat for me� (even if truthful) is not a neg-hit; it is being unnecessarily cruel.

And finally, and perhaps most importantly, a neg-hit is NOT some magic spell that you can speak and have women fall all over you. But it�s the closest thing you will get to that!

Ok, so now that we know what a neg-hit ISN�T, let us proceed to find out what a neg-hit IS. Remember that a neg-hit is: a remark, sometimes humorous, used to point out a woman�s flaws.

A neg-hit IS used to penetrate a woman�s b*tch shield.

A neg-hit IS used to bring a woman down off her self-imposed pedestal.

A neg-hit is SINCERE. Women can spot phony a mile away.

Most importantly, A neg-hit IS used to bring a woman�s self perception more into line with reality.

Now that you know what a neg-hit is and isn�t, let�s discuss upon whom you should deliver a neg-hit. A neg-hit can be safely used on a 9.5 or 10 who knows she ranks that high . A neg-hit can also be safely used on ANY girl who thinks she is a 9 or 10, even if she is actually a 6 or a 7 (these are usually �daddy�s girls�). Don�t use a neg-hit on either of these type of women if they are feeling particularly bad about themselves that day. They may just hate you for it.

The effect of a good neg-hit on a woman�s psyche is something to behold. It does 4 things simultaneously. First, since those high quality women are used to men kissing their @ss, it will confuse them ( �This guy isn�t falling all over me like a puppy dog. Why is that? Is my (whatever flaw) really that bad?� ). It throws them off balance and makes them self-conscious. Second, it will pique their curiosity about you, and you become something of a mystery. (�Why isn�t this guy acting like every other AFC I meet? How come my looks haven�t immediately charmed him? What is up with this guy?� ) Third, it will create a challenge (�This guy must have REALLY high standards. I don�t think he likes me. Everyone else likes me. I MUST get him to like me!� ). Fourth, it lets her know that you don�t think she is anything special based on her looks ( �He isn�t amazed by how I look? Why? *GASP* Am I in the presence of a REAL man? Oh, I think my panties are wet!� ) After the neg-hit, watch her eyes. You will see her go �Hey!�, and then you will actually SEE her run through all 4 of those stages mentioned above. It really is amazing. With a few well-placed comments, you have created all the things that DJs strive so hard to create, and you have appeared to do it effortlessly.

posted 04-02-2002 12:05 PM            

When delivering a neg-hit on a woman, everything AFC in you will scream, �Don�t do it! She will hate me for it! She will get upset! It will p*ss her off!�. B*tch slap that little AFC, and send him to his room. If you have never used neg-hits before, you are in for a real treat, and some surprises. Don�t listen to that little voice: be bold, confident, and casual, and SINCERE. It will be worth it.

Neg-hits can be delivered in one of two ways. One way is to deliver it straight, without any indication that you are joking or playing. This works best on girls who are extremely stuck up about some aspect of themselves. True story: I was at a bar and this really hot 21 year old chick ended up showing the bartender and I her t*ts. Since all the other guys were freaking out and I was not responding, she slid over to me and said, �What did YOU think of them�. I look her in the eyes, looked at her t*ts, looked her back in the eyes and said �They�re nice, but I�ve seen better�, then turned back to my drink. Her interest level shot through the roof (I ended up screwing it up, but that�s another story).

Girls who just have their b*tch shield up, or the girls that think they are hotter than they really should get the second delivery, which is in a humorous way. You deliver the neg-hit with humor and laughter. This says to her �Yes, I am aware of your flaw, but I think it�s cute �. This also says to her �You are not as perfect as all these AFCs think you are�.

There are three main groups (for lack of a better term) around which you will neg-hit. The first is her choices (choice of dress, hair style, makeup, etc). The second is her physical characteristics. Included in this is how she moves/speaks/eats/etc. Third (very rare and hard to accomplish) is her actions (how she treats someone, manners, etc.) The difference between the two is that the FORMER is what she does unconsciously (how many of us are aware of how we laugh, for example?), the latter is her conscious decisions. I believe you will see the difference in the examples.

A word of warning: Don�t be drawn into a discussion of makeup/hair/nails/etc! You aren�t trying to be this broad�s fashion consultant! You are merely offering a �suggestion� to improve her appearance. For example, If she starts discussing why she likes short nails, immediately turn it to how short nails make her FEEL. Also, BE SPECIFIC, not general. Specific shows that you notice details. General means you�re just being an @ss.

Choice neg-hits can be used as opening �lines�, or can be used during a conversation.

�Enough already� , you are screaming, �Get to some examples!� .

EXAMPLES OF �CHOICE� NEG-HITS

Hey, I like that outfit (pause for her response) Yeah, my (mother/aunt/grandmother) has one just like it! This one is a classic.

You have really nice nails pause they ARE just a shade off color, though. (Warning: Don�t sound like a gay hairdresser! Sound like someone who NOTICES things like this, and has very high standards which she isn�t quite up to.)

You have a very pretty face, but you should use less makeup. Makeup should be used to enhance a woman�s beauty, not hide it. (Yes, I really used this one. Successfully, I might add)

You have really beautiful hair pause you should grow it (shorter/longer). It would go much better with the shape of your face.

[i] That outfit is really sharp pause It would look much better if it were (some other color).

Nice outfit! pause I saw another woman here wearing the exact same thing! Women HATE this. (Personally, if a guy was wearing the same thing as me, I�d just think he had good taste. )

Didn�t I see you wearing that outfit last week? Chances are that she did indeed wear that outfit last week.

Nice shoes! pause You�d look SO much better in (open/closed toe/high heel/low heel) shoes.
(Again, don�t sound like a gay fashion consultant. Deliver it as your preference, and as if all men believe the same thing as you)

Have you highlighted your hair? pause for her response Why do women ruin their luxurious (blond/black/brown/red) hair with highlights?

You have very pretty (blue/brown/black/green/hazel) eyes. pause [I] You shouldn�t use (so much/so little) eye shadow. It detracts from the color of your eyes.

I hope the above examples of �choice� neg-hits give you a basis to get started. Use your imagination when coming up with one. With practice, they should get easier. Also, I cannot stress the importance of BEING SINCERE. If you think her hair is perfect, don�t use a hair neg-hit. It will be as false as Pamela Anderson�s boobs.

posted 04-02-2002 12:06 PM            

EXAMPLE OF PHYSICAL TRAIT NEG-HITS

Do you know your nose wiggles when you (talk/laugh/drink)?

You have little crinkles around your eyes when you laugh DON�T SAY �WRINKLES�, unless she is exceptionally hot.

Your ears have a funny shape you laugh I kind of like it though!

Hey, you�ve got a little bit of a mustache! Yes, I�ve successfully used this one. If you look close enough, ALL women have a little bit of hair on their top lip. Some are more noticeable than others, but they all have it. It is best used if you lean in real close (almost like a kiss) while looking at her lips, then laugh and lean back. She will ask you what is so funny.

I like women with weak/strong chins (Her mind: �He thinks I have a weak/strong chin? Is a weak/strong chin good or bad? Do most men prefer weak/strong chins?!?�)

Wow! You have kinda manly hands! (WARNING: If she has REALLY manly hands, check for an adam�s apple, THEN get your eyesight checked! )

You have really long/short fingers. Most guys prefer a woman with short/long fingers. Note how you didn�t mention YOUR preference, merely �most men�. These will leave her guessing as to which you prefer. As we all know, any time she is thinking about YOU, it�s a good thing!

An attractive girl like you should take better care of her nails!

You have a weird sense of humor

It�s kind of rude to chew with your mouth open

Ewwww! You just spit on me! (Said while she is talking, and you are brushing off the front of your shirt)

Please don�t interrupt me while I am speaking Girls often do this unconsciously. Have you ever sat around and REALLY paid attention to a bunch of girls talking?

Do you use a conditioner for split-ends?

You have a really big/small/weird nose!

If she mentions she has a big butt or looks fat (called �fishing for a compliment�, because she is trying to get you to compliment her) say Nah, Sir Mix-A-Lot (or Puff Daddy) would love a butt like that! Notice that you told her what someone else would think of her butt, but (no pun intended) you haven�t told her what YOU think of it. Can the newbies say �Mystery�? Good newbies!

Ok, that should give you some examples on physical trait neg-hitting. Use your imagination. Remember, it is VERY easy to sound cruel when saying these types of things, so use humor. You�re pointing it out because you think it�s �cute� (awwwwww!), not because you are being mean or cruel. This will be translated by the girl to the following internal conversation �He thinks my somebodypart is somecharacteristic? No one has ever told me that. But he thinks it�s cute. Do other guys think like him? I certainly don�t think he is like other guys! Is my somebodypart REALLY somecharacteristic?� Notice how many times YOU were brought up in that internal conversation, which happens in a blink of the eye?

The last type of neg-hit is the most difficult to pull off without sounding like a pompous pr*ck. It is best reserved for girls that shoot you down before you even get a chance to talk with them. You know the ones that I am talking about. You walk up and say �hi� and they give you a sh*tty look, or say �I�m not interested� right away. Those type of women. Although you can get away with these types of neg-hits on any stuck up girl. This is basically calling a woman on her bullsh*t when you don�t even know her.

posted 04-02-2002 12:08 PM            

ACTION NEG-HIT EXAMPLES

If you go up to talk to a woman, and she shoots you down before you even speak to her: Hey lady, laugh all I wanted to do was to ask you for the ashtray/salt/ketchup/time/whatever. laugh again. Start to walk away then say I�ll be right over here when you want to apologize (Notice, not �IF� but �when�). Walk away laughing. Every time you catch her looking your way, laugh her way.

You know, it is really unbecoming for a woman like yourself to be so snobbish

You behaved very rudely. Weren�t you taught proper manners? This is best used if you overhear her interaction with someone else, and she WAS behaving rudely.

When she says something totally ludicrous (�I really like nice guys�, etc.) You are SO full of sh*t! Guys, watch the deer-caught-in-the-headlights look! It�s hilarious. She�ll not have a response for this. This is my all time favorite! Be prepared to explain why you thought so, because when she recovers her composure she will most certainly ask for an explanation.

If she cusses a lot (I mean outside of the bedroom! ): Do you know how unattractive it is when a woman speaks like that?

Please be a little more considerate where you are blowing your smoke

You know, I�ve heard that when a woman crosses her legs and shakes one, she is actually masturbating This one should be said with humor, and as an obvious joke. If she gets upset, say I was JUST KIDDING! Geez, I see you don�t have a sense of humor? all the while with a big grin on your face. Two neg-hits for the price of one!

Correct her grammer. (Especially difficult to pull off without sounding pompous)

END OF EXAMPLES

Now, if you are new to being a DJ, I can see what your little minds are thinking. Is he kidding? Those examples are soooo cheesy! My God, what dumb@ss woman would fall for those? There�s NO WAY those things will work! These women will think I�m a stupid @sshole! How�d I do? Yes, I DO mean to tell you that those lines work, and work wonderfully well. Now, b*tch slap the AFC side of you that said that, and tell him to go have a long conversation with your feminine side! You don�t want to hear anymore of his bullsh*t!

NO MATTER IF HUMOR IS USED OR NOT, ALWAYS DELIVER THE NEG-HIT WITH THE UTMOST SUPREME CONFIDENCE! A neg-hit without confidence is like going bear hunting with an unloaded rifle. You may think it�s cool, but you�ll get your @ss chewed up!

Neg-hits work because you quickly and effortlessly take a woman down from her pedestal. You show her you are in control, you have a quick wit and mind, and that she doesn�t impress you. In other words, YOU ARE EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF ALL THE CHUMPS THAT HAVE BEEN HITTING ON HER. You just demonstrated this in short order.

After the neg-hit, be prepared for her to neg-hit you back! Sometime later in the conversation, she will tease you about some trait you have, or something you said. You must shoot some smart @ss comment right back at her. This, in effect, is a test. Pass this test and you will have gotten a LOT farther than you would have otherwise.

You will find out that while you still have to do all the rest of the DJ moves, you have a greater latitude for screw-ups than you would have otherwise had.

One word of warning: Don�t ever tell her (or any woman for that matter) that you have/are/going to neg-hit her. For that matter, don�t even discuss what a neg-hit actually is with a woman. They will swear that neg-hits �would never work on me�. Yeah, sure honey. Newbies, what�s the first rule of women? Never listen to what they say always look at their actions. There is a reason for that rule.

posted 04-02-2002 12:09 PM            

ADVANCED NEG-HITTING

This tip is for those of you already familiar with neg-hits. It is NOT for use by neg-hit newbies!!!! I CANNOT STRESS THAT ENOUGH. Newbies should NOT use these. It will NOT work for you.

Remember when I said that neg-hitting can only be used on 9s or 10s, or those women that think they are 9s or 10s? That�s not quite entirely true. You can use neg-hits on women who rank WAY below that, if done properly, and she is the correct type of woman. She needs to have one (or hopefully more) of the following traits.

1) A wicked sense of humor. Not just a good one, but a GREAT one.
2) A good deal of confidence.
3) Is in her mid-to-late 30s. Unless she is especially attractive, don�t go outside of the normal neg-hit parameters on a woman in her 40s. (Unless you are teasing her about TURNING 40).
4) You have previously been �friends� or �acquaintances�.

You can get away with neg-hitting women who fall into these categories IF you are good at neg-hits. My best record is a 6.5 (A 5 on my scale is actually the AVERAGE woman, NOT some ugly broad like some guys rank), whom I said was a �b*tch�, had a �mustache�, and �wasn�t very exciting�. We ended up making out a few hours later!

posted 04-02-2002 12:09 PM            

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posted 04-02-2002 12:18 PM            

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posted 04-02-2002 12:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Sir_Chancealot:

COMING SOON....

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Better post that in anything else or Allen will get too much of a hard-on, go figure.

posted 04-02-2002 12:47 PM            

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Originally posted by pjam:
Good Post, however, either i come off as not saying NEG-HITS correctly or I'm flirting with woman with no sense of humor because honestly when i've used NEG-HITs all i get is a roll your eyes and "I have to go to the bathroom, I'll be right back" and the girl low and behold leaves.

SO NEG-HITS have not worked for me at all.

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pjam, if neg-hits aren't working for you (generally speaking) then you are using them inappropriately. I would guess that you are trying to use them on women who aren't good looking enough, OR you aren't using enough humor.

Wyldfire, I wanted the greatest amount of newbies and DJs to see this post, so that necessitated it being put in "discussion". Also, I knew there would be some Q&A. Thus, it is where it is at.

A good DJ also knows when to BREAK the rules.

(Besides, you couldn't argue with anything in my post, and as a woman you HAD to b*tch about something! )

posted 04-02-2002 12:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Sir_Chancealot:

Wyldfire, I wanted the greatest amount of newbies and DJs to see this post, so that necessitated it being put in "discussion". Also, I knew there would be some Q&A. Thus, it is where it is at.

A good DJ also knows when to BREAK the rules.

(Besides, you couldn't argue with anything in my post, and as a woman you HAD to b*tch about something! )

[This message has been edited by Sir_Chancealot (edited 04-02-2002).]

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posted 04-02-2002 01:00 PM            

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Hey, you�ve got a little bit of a mustache!

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Sheesh, you'd have to have steel balls to deliver that one. I can't see how any good could come out of that one. Must be a black diamond neghit.

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Have you highlighted your hair? pause for her response Why do women ruin their luxurious (blond/black/brown/red) hair with highlights?

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How about this variation to use on bleach-blonds?

"You have such pretty blond hair. Why do you dye the roots black?"

Neghit or cheesy line?

posted 04-02-2002 01:48 PM            

I really like your description of what goes through women's heads when you deliver a perfect neg-hit. I noticed that too. First shock, then exasperation, then respect/desire for me. Ah ha ha ha!

Also, I'd like to point out I noticed a lot of newbies seem to have trouble finding opportunities to use neg hits, but I've noticed if you're observant, every conversation with any woman offers TONS of opportunities for neg hits. Especially the really hot, younger girls who don't have the mental capacity to see it coming. Just listen to what she says and observe her and you'll see tons of flaws in even the hottest woman--which becomes fodder for your neg-hits.

Jake

posted 04-02-2002 03:40 PM            

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posted 04-02-2002 03:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Giovanni Casanova:
[b](I think most of us are tired of the Wyldfire-Giovanni bickering.)

[This message has been edited by sosuave.com (edited 04-02-2002).][/B]

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Are we sure these 2 aren't married or related in some way?

I bow to you, Sir_Chancealot for such a an excellent coverage. Jousting tips for the 21st century.