posted 09-25-2001 12:46 AM
Hey playas, I appreciate the thoughtful posts. As for these tips being in the bible, it doesn�t make a difference to me. It doesn�t make the tips any �better� just because they�re in the bible. Tips in the bible just give a general idea of what the site has to offer and the bible just makes it easier to access certain posts for beginning playas that haven�t looked through many posts yet.
Like I�ve said many times, everyone has differing DJ tactics for different situations. No matter how well a tip is explained or how many people agree with it, there will ALWAYS be people who disagree with it; that�s the inevitable nature of the game. It�s also an aspect of this site that makes it so unique.
I utilize all the tactics I give whether someone approves of them or not. The only approval I need lies within my personal experiences. The experiences will not lie�they give me the unbiased info I need to carry out the analysis of my techniques. I advise my entire DJ family to rely on their own experiences when judging the tactics discussed on this site.
Why do I give out pimpin info, some may ask? The main reason is that I want everybody in here to become experienced playas so that we can all benefit from each other�s heightened knowledge of the game.
Although there are many things to be learned from unskilled playas as well, such as learning from their mistakes�there�s only so much one can learn from that level. Learning and contributing from a higher level, the level of SUCCESSFUL experience, is the goal I strive to reach by empowering my fellow DJ�s with the tools needed to succeed.
I�d like to clear up some of the points of my post. If you�ve read my past posts, you�d know that my tips are meant as outlines to be adjusted to your personal style. My lessons don�t require that you say exactly what�s stated and what you say is not limited to those specific statements.
Although it is possible that you can apply my 4-step pick-up technique verbatim to any situation (part III needs slight adjustment when in a college environment), when you get used to picking-up numerous girls with the same script, you will naturally start fitting the approach to the situation you are already in and what you say will vary to some extent in every situation.
Mastering the 4-step approach is more than just memorizing the script; it�s about understanding it and using it as an outline. What do I mean by using it as an outline? It means that you don�t have to go immediately to part II from part I, or immediately to part III from II�etc.
For example, say you attempt a pick-up at a mall (outside the stores where there is ongoing walking traffic). After going through part I, you can say, �How�s your shopping going?�� �What are you shopping for?���How often do you shop?��etc. (I advise that you start walking with her in the direction she was walking while starting to run your game, it will make her more comfortable with you b/c it�s very awkward to just be standing there while everybody�s walking by).
Those questions are sure to spark her conversational juices. Then you can start with part II by asking where she�s from, if she likes it here, how long she�s been here�etc. Then you can start talking about shopping some more as well as �water the seeds� she gave you from your previous small talk questions.
You can continue with �How long you been here?���What store�s do you usually shop at?�� �What type of clothes do you usually like to buy?��etc. Then you can go into part III by asking what brings her to this city, keeps her in this city, what she does, where she goes/went to school�etc.
Follow the same process if you want in order to get into part IV. I usually jump right into part IV from III without the additional small talk and then get the number and head in a different direction in search of other girls to run the same type of game on.
For all you playas in college, here�s an example of using the approach as an outline on campus. Say you meet a girl on campus as you�re walking to class. After you go through part I, you can say, �What class are you about to go to?�� �How many classes are you taking this semester/quarter?�� �What�s your favorite class so far? How come?��etc. Then delve right into part II.
As you make your transition into part III, you won�t be asking her why she�s here b/c it�s obvious�she�s in the city b/c she goes to college here. You should ask her questions within the context of, �What�s your major?�� �What year are you?�� �How do you like this school?�� �What things are you involved in around campus?��etc. You can also �water the seeds� from your previous small talk questions.
Odds are she doesn�t work or has a part-time job since she�s in college. But it doesn�t hurt to ask. Then when you want to end the convo. and get the number, go into part IV. Also remember to walk with her to where she was walking, for the same reasons I stated in the mall pick-up example.
You should all have a good idea of what I mean by using my tips as an outline by now. The outline for this specific �date set-up tips� goes as follows: 1) Making the call 2) Beginning small talk 3) Asking her out 4) Closing the call.
The first part will go by fairly quickly, the second part should last 3-6 minutes, and the third and fourth parts will vary in time due to discussion, planning, directions and decision-making.
How is it that the second part will last 3-6 minutes with only three questions? As you should now know, it was an outline in which to base your small talk on. What you say depends on the situation you met her in, how long your initial convo. was, and what info was exchanged during the initial convo.
If you picked her up in a very time-constrained situation and didn�t have time to ask her all the questions you planned on asking her�now is the time to do it. Six minutes is plenty of time to exchange info.
However, if you were able to deal her the full wrath of your approach during the initial convo., then 3-4 minutes is all that�s needed. The small talk should reflect on the situation in which you met as well as the info she gave you about herself.
For example, say you are calling the girl you met at the mall in the previous example. You can start out with� �How have you been?�(the first question I recommended in the lesson)� then you can say, �How did your shopping go?�� �What things did you end up buying?��etc.
Then you can say, �How was your day?�(the second question I recommended)�then you can ask her about her work� �Did you work today?�� �What are your hours like?�� �Anything interesting happen at work today?��etc.
Then you can conclude with, �What you been up to lately?�(the third question I recommended)�then ask her questions about what she says she�s been doing and/or �water the seeds� from your previous small talk questions.
There seems to be some controversy over the location for a �first date�; that�s normal. On the one hand, no one wants to be like other guys�but on the other hand, everyone wants something that works.
I suggested lunch or dinner b/c those are the locations that have worked for me. I also suggested coffee as a less expensive option but I�ve never taken a girl out for coffee so I don�t know how effective it is. The coffee is high-priced anyways; I�d rather pay a few extra bucks and grab a bite to eat at someplace that I enjoy.
As for reservations, you should make them if you know that the place is usually busy and you would really like to go there. I�ve changed my view on making reservations�I don�t make them unless it�s a Friday or Saturday night (usually after I�ve gotten the panties), I now have 2-3 different options that are close in proximity just in case one of the places is too busy.
But as I said in my second post, if you master your approach you WILL be able to get more numbers than you can handle. When you have a multitude of numbers, you can make �first date booty calls�. My experiences with these are the following:
I get her to my place or I go to her place around 6:30p or so. Then we have a drink and talk for 20 minutes or so. If she gives me sexual vibes, I go for the kiss and attempt to hit the skins. If she�s not ready to give up the panties, I suggest that we go get something to eat.
And there you have it folks�you will either get the panties or the date will turn into a dinner date or both. The only difference is that she will be extremely comfortable with you and there is less pressure on you to make sure the date goes as planned.
Other girls I call up at around 9:45p and set up the booty call for the same night. These ones are guaranteed panties if she accepts b/c she knows why you want to get together that night. I�ve concentrated my tactics around both these types of booty calls and have rarely taken a girl out to eat before spending some time at one another�s place.
In my recent pimpological studies, I�ve noticed that women in their late twenties and early thirties seem to be less apt at accepting booty calls as first dates. They seem to want to get to know a guy a little bit more than the young wild ones. But trust me, the older women are just as wild�if not wilder. It�s true that a woman reaches her sexual peak in her late 20�s early 30�s.
[This message has been edited by Pimpologist (edited 02-21-2002).]