Relax! — Becoming a Successful Seducer Is Easier Than You Think

A Seduction Secret That Other "Gurus" Don't Want You to Know

by Ron Louis & David Copeland

Getting women into your bed is easier than most men ever know.

The truth is, most of the moments of your interaction with a hot woman don't really make much difference. It's the brief "Pivot Moments" that decide whether you are a success with her, or if you go home alone.

A "pivot," in case you don't know, is a part in a machine from which something — say, a swing-arm —  can swing in one direction, or another.

With women, "Pivot Moments" are the brief, fleeting moments where the whole outcome of your interaction with her is decided.

How you handle the "Pivot Moments" defines whether you become lovers with the women, or end up just another guy she thinks of as "just a friend."

Obviously, these "Pivot Moments" are pretty important.

In fact, these "Pivot Moments" are crossroads, defining moments in interactions with women. If you do the wrong thing at that moment, the relationship will swing one way — like toward the direction of being "just friends."

If you do the right thing at that "pivot moment", the relationship will swing another — like toward the two of your becoming lovers.

And here's the best news:

Handling the "Pivot Moments" Correctly Is Not Hard

Succeeding with women looks hard because it's so easy to do it wrong. But get this, because it's important...

Even the *worst* seducer isn't doing it wrong every moment. In fact, most of the moments a bad seducer is talking to a woman, he's doing it just fine. Most moments, even a bad seducer is not doing things differently than a successful one would.

A lot of self-described "Seduction Gurus" don't want you to know this, because it makes success too simple, but it's true...

Most moments with women are the same whether you are destined to be friends, or destined to be lovers. You're hanging out, talking about random things. And that's fine.

The difference is the "Pivot Moments." The successful seducer handles the "Pivot Moments" perfectly. The failure seducer doesn't.

This is not a joke. This is not "hype." This is something that will give you the hot women you want. And much more easily than you think.

If you get all the pivot points wrong, you will never get a woman, except in the rare times that a woman chooses YOU, and has sex with you in spite of how poorly you handled the "Pivot Moments."

If you get all the pivot points RIGHT, you don't need to do anything miraculous to get what you want with women. The seduction will seem to just "happen."

Most men spend so much time trying to come up with some elaborate routine or system to get women, that they lose sight of this simple fact.

Let's Look At the First "Pivot Moment" That Happens With Women

The first "Pivot Moment" with a woman is when you first start talking to her.

The truth is, she's afraid. She's wondering what you are going to do to her. She's wondering how long it will take. She doesn't know if you are some psycho who is going to harm her, stalk her, or do who-knows-what to her.

These are legitimate worries for a women to have. No matter how much you might complain how hard it is to be a man, women — especially hot ones — face dangers from men every day that you do not.

The woman you are approaching probably has had a host of bad experiences with men, and that's why she's afraid of you.

Now, from her point of view, imagine what it is like to have you approach her. While SHE is being scared that something bad is going to happen in the interaction, YOU are afraid, too.

Here's Something Not Many Men Realize

YOU must be a source of certainty that everything is okay in an interaction with a woman.

Think about it. When you approach a woman, she is looking at YOUR behavior to decide how much SHE should relax.

If you seem tense, she'll get tense.

It's as if she's thinking, "He's acting like there's something terribly wrong. There MUST BE something terribly wrong!! I'm in danger!"

Meanwhile, you are thinking, "Wow, this woman seems to be getting scared. I must be screwing it up. I'm doomed! What's wrong with me?!"

Put another way...

You are waiting for the woman to relax before YOU relax.

Meanwhile, she's waiting for YOU to relax before SHE relaxes.

This is bad. And it will NOT get you what you want with her.

You've probably noticed that there are some men that women naturally feel comfortable with.

They are able to approach women, and the women don't get tense or scared.

These are the men who get women!

And Here's Their Secret

These men do something incredibly simple in that first "Pivot Moment" when they approach a woman.

They are relaxing, even before the woman relaxes.

And it makes all the difference.

We call this "Being a Source of Certainty that the Interaction is Okay."

YOU can do this, too.

It's just that you've probably thought it was RUDE to relax before a woman does.

Now you know differently.

Next time you interact with a woman, take a chance. Be willing to believe, if only for a moment, that everything is okay in your interaction.

Do NOT wait for her to relax before you relax. Help encourage her to relax by relaxing yourself. It actually is easy, once you decide to do it.

Here's Exactly How You Become a "Source of Certainty" With Women

  1. Next time you are talking to a woman, notice if you are waiting for her to relax before you relax.
  2. Then allow yourself, for a moment, to relax and believe that the interaction is going just fine — even if she doesn't seem to be feeling the same way.
  3. Notice how she relaxes, sometimes immediately.

One man told us about how he used this approach right away after he learned it.

He said, "I was ordering some coffee at the local coffee shop, and started trying to flirt with the hot girl behind the counter. She seemed sort of scared, and normally I'd have waited for her to relax before I did — which, of course, would never happen."

He goes on: "I remembered to be a Source of Certainty, and decided that I would relax, even if she didn't. I told myself, 'Everything is okay between us. I can relax.'"

"The results were amazing, really shocking. The moment I decided that I would trust that everything was okay, she suddenly let out a deep breath, and her shoulders relaxed. It's true — she must have been getting scared by how scared I was, and the moment I calmed down, she calmed down, too."

Congratulations! You've gotten through the first "Pivot Moment" with a woman! Once you are able to do this, everything else with women will be easier.

If you like the idea of ONLY thinking about the important moments with hot women, and simply being able to relax and "let success happen" in your interactions with them, then you'll want to be sure to check out the important information at

How To Succeed With Women

You know, men often tell us that what makes our work different than that of other so-called "Seduction Gurus" is that we focus on the simple, useful ideas that can make things work in those "Pivot Moments."

In fact, that's why some men call our work "Dirt Simple Success with Women" — because we remove the complications, the manipulations, and the whole "Song-and-dance" from succeeding with women, and make it EASY.

So make sure you try out being a "source of certainty" in your next interaction with a woman.

Until next time,

Ron Louis and David Copeland

P.S. We've had all the same problems you probably have. And we've gotten past them.

About the Author: Ron and David are dating coaches. Their book How to Succeed With Women has sold over 40,000 copies. They have been featured in magazines such as Cosmopolitan, Playboy, YM, Maxim, GQ UK, Swank, Gallery, and Players. They have also been on the Rosanne Barr Show, the Issac Hays show, To Tell the Truth, Fox News, CNN, UPN, and ABC. For more great tips on meeting and dating women or to ask a question go to